I kept still hoping that they couldnt climb a tree. Why does a levergun in .357 Magnum make more sense than one in .30-30 in those states? almost 1782 psi less than 9mm 4" barrel pressure. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. Take a lever action over an AR every day. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. Max. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . In those area, they cant legally own an AR, AK, etc. Go for a hike in the woods or mountains and you see deer most times of the year. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. We ballistics types all know sad stories about cartridges that showed great potential but failed shortly after leaving the launch pad. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. GunBroker.com Forums. Finding component will likely be tough though. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. using H4227 and H110. You have entered an incorrect email address! https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. New cartridge and rifle. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. No Tags. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. Even my Walmart has 30-30 ammo now. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. For instance, My 45-90, when I reload the 45/90 case, I only load to mid range 45/70 specs and use toilet paper to make up the case space. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on November 23, 2019: I spoke to a gunsmith about rebarreling a Ruger #3 falling block (single shot) to .357 Maximum and he was appalled, commenting "You'll never be able to resell it! Custom craftsmanship applied to streamlined CNC manufacturing processes. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. The Henry Single Shot is one VERY nice little rifle! Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. Low supplies and very high demand. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. A bit heavy, if I had to buy it again, Id pick a shorter, lighter barrel version but I am not unhappy with the gun. Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. 40-50 Sharps 1 7/8" and the 40-60 Maynard 2.20" can be made by blowing out 303 British or 30-40 Krag cases and cutting to length. What would be the right bullet? of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. Its so ugly I love it. How do the modern .357 loads compare to the first repeaters? I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. I shoot 38 short. Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. Spoken like someone who doesnt live in a 2A benighted state or area. The LGS is cleaned out. Id tend to agree with you. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! IHMSA is still active but nowhere near as popular as it was back then. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Even though it was flawed engineering, it was the cartridge that suffered. Build a Ruger#1. The world's most powerful firearm database. I sight in for 75 yards which lets me go out 125 yards with pretty much a dead on hold. At only 6 lbs, it can easily be carried in the handwhich you have to do since it lacks sling studs. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). and ring 4 inch plates every time. Not everything has to be tactically sound. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. When Remington put the special round into production, it got a new (and prophetic) name: .357 Maximum. Both are top performers. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Going price was 399.they didnt have any..but said they had a 45 Long Colt at a discount 299easy decision. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. Because the .357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to .35 Rem. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! Nicks and marks from use in wood and finish. Smooth as butter. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. We were amazed at the penetration. The Story of my life it seems. They only made these two years. A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. Max chambering. I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. These comments are directed at the people say there is no ammo to buy, or its too expensive. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post The Alaskan combines tradition wit NO Credit Card Fees Like the Other Guys!! .357 Rem. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post Thats one reason my dad carried a semi-auto 12 Gauge for whitetails. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. Midsouth Shooters can supply you with your pistol and rifle ammunition, as well as all of your shooting and reloading supplies. If you want a short-action levergun with similar ballistics, consider: I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. I own a Marlin .357 and its a beaut. It could even work for breech-seating. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. Hornady XTP 158 gr. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. Trust me. Remember the name Glenfeild. From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. Threaded barrel. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Most 357 mag guns are 16" barrels and some are 20 inch. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is well within the expansion range of the slightly larger XTP. properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. Remington and Ruger eventually . Gun Cleaning Equipment Bore Snakes Gun Cleaning Bore Guides Gun Cleaning Brushes . Modern black rifles offer options older firearms cant compete with. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. The.357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Past 20, pressure drops off and so do velocities. They both have Constitutional carry! Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. The 2350 fps 150gr .30-30 is 1850 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. The trigger is even really nice for a lever gun and I own a bunch of them. 350 legend Oklahoma Shooters from www.okshooters.com. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. True dat. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. Why? It fails to cause antis to have uncontrollable, explosive decompression of the space inside the colon? In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. This is because revolvers allow a certain amount of gas to escape as the bullet jumps from the cylinder to the forcing cone, meaning lost pressure. 44 Mag is much more forgiving. Headquarters for everything .357 Remington Maximum, Superlative accuracy from MGM 1-20 twist rifle barrel shot at 80 yards. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. I can even hunt with both in some neighboring states, and do. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. being a good functional maximum charge with 180 gr. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. Many people download it and get unburnt . Also, after breaking it in, the Rossis action (which is the major criticism for this gun) was just as smooth as the Winchesters, Marlins and Henrys I have shot. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. That and you cant find 357 magnum ammunition anywhere. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Which chamber to choose? This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . I like the combo. Gun shows are your salvation. The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. Oh. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. My Name. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post While many manufacturers produce copper jacketed or semi-jacketed bullets, as well as spire point for better accuracy at longer ranges, you can cast your own bullets to load this caliber. Thats relevance! . The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. Get one batch of 360 brass from Starline for ammo to be loaded hot. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. And if even a Henry is a little rich for your blood, Rossi makes perfectly serviceable pistol-caliber levers that retail in the mid-$500s. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. 8,125. It shoots pretty good. Make sure to watch till the end. Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. (Photo: Winchester) Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. A great reason to explore reloading. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. Since MSRP is only $1,069, its Winchesters entry-level lever gunbut its far from entry-level quality. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. JavaScript is disabled. This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand.