The terms spiritual death or second death, lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness are all synonymous with hell, and all are descriptive of both the temporary and the permanent hell. How many people. Even the wicked of the earth who never knew the power of God, after they have paid the price of their sinningfor they must suffer the excruciating torment which sins will bringshall at last come forth from the prison house. So I thought Id get it all out there in one simple post. Just because Hitler, Mao, and Stalin along with Judas Iscariot (as mentioned above) never became Latter-day Saints apparently provides them with a much higher privilegea life in the telestial kingdom over those who once believed but left the true fold, kicking and screaming in their continued fight against the restored church of Jesus Christ. 67, LDS Church Archives. And now behold, I say unto you then cometh a death, even a second death, which is a spiritual death; then is a time that whosoever dieth in his sins, as to a temporal death, shall also die a spiritual death; yea, he shall die as to things pertaining unto righteousness. Outer Darkness. Jesus warned that those who mocked their brothers by saying Thou fool were in danger of hell fire (Matt. Doctrine and Covenants / Pearl of Great Price, Mormon Objections to Christian Evangelism, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church, Divine Love in the Fathers Plan (Dallin H. Oaks, April 2022). It is doubtful if even Judas, who betrayed Jesus, was sufficiently enlightened to become a son of perdition (Gospel Doctrine,p. 545). He once said that a person. (Matt. Yet what kind of devious person would it be who knew full well that Mormonism was trueincluding the historicity of theBook of Mormon,the authenticity of the restored churchs leadership that began withJoseph Smith,and the accuracy of theFirst Visioneventand then fight against these truths? [2]. They will not have access to the Holy Ghost or Heavenly Father or Jesus. If Lucifer had not known the effects of his rebellion, how would he ever become perdition? This analysis will first briefly review what we know from the teachings of the Restoration about hell, second death, the lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness. Did I really have full knowledge? It is taught that, in the pre-mortal life, they chose to follow a plan proposed by Satan, rather than that presented by God the Father. Unfortunately, Apple's iOS doesn't support home screen shortcuts in the Chrome browser. The Book of Mormon also makes reference to everlasting fire (2 Ne. 801-422-6975. Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that we know that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of God banished entirely from his presence (Doctrines of Salvation2:220). As used in the New Testament, hell is an English word which is translated from two Greek words: hades (used ten times) and geenna (twelve times). The second death is a second separation from God, not because of Adams transgression (the first death) but because of ones own failure to repent of personal sin. Mormon doctrines are often contradictory and inconsistent. Mormons also believe that those on Earth with bodies can become a Son of Perdition, tho this is difficult to do. The prophet Alma described the disposition of those in outer darkness: And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who are evilfor behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the spirit of the devil did enter into them, and take possession of their houseand these shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil (Alma 40:13; cf. [Discourse given on 20 January 1895.] (2) We believe in allowing our candles to burn for a maximum of four hours at a time. The question is, what exactly does full knowledge entail? Mormon Doctrine Lecture, #2, Brigham Young University, 1967.). The sons of perdition are those who have had a knowledge of the truth, have known that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, have had the testimony of the Spirit of the Lord, the Holy Ghost, and these things have all been revealed so that they know they are true; and then they turn against them and fight them knowingly (Conference Reports, April 1942, p. 27. I can give you more than plenty of examples of that. Bold and italics in original). Christians have debated for centuries the nature of the hell fire of which Jesus spoke (Matt. Another name for Outer Darkness is hell. Pingback: The Shunning Key by bwv549 - Mormon Bandwagon, A Son of Perdition is: Jacob identified death and hell as temporal and spiritual death. Plagiarism and The Globe a comparative analysis, The Shunning Key by bwv549 - Mormon Bandwagon, https://www.lds.org/scriptures/gs/sons-of-perdition, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_perdition_(Mormonism), https://www.fairmormon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/What_is_Mormon_Doctrine.pdf, https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Plan_of_salvation/Sons_of_Perdition/Can_women_be_%22Sons_of_Perdition%22, LDS Church and Same Sex Marriage Timeline, The Pump LDS film and the original source, Ethan Smith, Hyrum Smith, Oliver Cowdery, Solomon Spaulding connections. This is serving Satan. Usually, when one is going to hell, the unspoken caveat is unless they repent. Twenty-nine times the word hell is used with descriptive modifiers, for example, depths of hell (1 Ne. 10:28). The Lord said no man knoweth So, theres probably a good reason that there is some debate and confusion on it. Outer Darkness, I always heard, was reserved for a handful of suckers like Cain and Judas who saw God and/or Jesus and were still rebellious. Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming . True, some former Mormons have expressed doubts and wondered if the church might possibly be true, which is a completely natural response after having left the one true church. If they decided they made a mistake because they still believed the church were true, they would be more apt to rejoin it rather than stay excommunicated and fight against it. Often in the scriptures it is difficult to discern which helltemporary or permanentis being spoken of, since many references to hell in the scriptures are used in a nonspecific manner to simply designate a place or state of suffering for the wicked. 8:13). Banishment into outer darkness. And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment (Mosiah 2:3839). Satan and his followers are beings of spirit who were denied bodies and cast out of heaven during pre-mortal existence (see Plan of Salvation ). Unless someone has rejected love, like the Nephites, I believe there is still hope that they will repent. FAIRMormon says on this page even: When any man, except the President of the Church, undertakes to proclaim one unsettled doctrine, as among two or more doctrines in dispute, as the settled doctrine of the Church, we may know that he is not moved upon by the Holy Ghost, unless he is acting under the direction and by the authority of the President. In Mormonism, Outer darkness is described as "those who are unfaithful, those who will listen to Satan, who will lend a willing ear to his blandishments and to his allurements, when they go from this state of existence, they go into a condition where they are subject to his power. (See D&C 76:2835, 4448.) (1) We believe in trimming our wicks to 1/4 between each burn. This extreme punishment will not be given to any but the sons of perdition (Doctrines of Salvation 2:220). Italics in original). 13:42), the fire that never shall be quenched (Mark 9:45), where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched (Mark 9:48), and cast into the fire (Luke 3:9). . Consistently, hell is associated with fire. Here, like John and Samuel, Alma equated the second death with the lake of fire and brimstone. Thirty-three times it stands alone, without modifiers or explanation of what it means, as in And thus we see the end of him who perverteth the ways of the Lord; and thus we see that the devil will not support his children at the last day, but doth speedily drag them down to hell (Alma 30:60). Clearly, when it comes to perdition and outer darkness, I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me, and anyone who speaks on the matter has a dizzying intellect. . spirit prison. . Divine Love in the Fathers Plan (Dallin H. Oaks, April 2022). It is simply his opinion. It must be emphasized that the witness described means that the person has had the heavens opened unto him and has personally seen, and even spoken with, the Savior, and then has turned against Him, bringing him to open shame. The word hell is mentioned twenty-three times in the New Testament: fifteen times in the Gospels, twice in the book of Acts, once each in James and 2 Peter, and four times in the book of Revelation. Additional doctrinal truth concerning the great gulf can be found in the Doctrine and Covenants (see D&C 138:1837). 18:8), hell fire (Matt. In Christianity, it is understood that anyone who denies the holy spirit goes to outer darkness, but they see it as a synonym for Hell. This is not an easy thing to do unless you are choosing to do so while being fully aware that you are doing so. Those who have never received the light are not to become Sons of Perdition. Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce R. McConkie have rejected the idea that those in perdition can ultimately be redeemed, which contradicts Brighams speculations. Dennis L. Largey was an associate professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University when this was published. The Book of Mormon contains one reference to outer darkness. D&C 133:73 says, These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Humans who never heard about Mormonism will not go there, as tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith said, That is a punishment that will not come to those who have never known the truth. This isnt something like going out and breaking their rule of no drinking. One must be on a high eminence to fall so low; and few in worlds history have attained such a height. Think along the lines of a religious leader serving God but the opposite. Mormons believe that there Prophets are fallible and in no way perfect. It also teaches that the Atonement ransoms humankind from physical death through the resurrection and from spiritual death, or hell, through repentance. Banishment from the presence of God. . - Wilford Woodruff in a meeting with the apostles, 1893 D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997) p. 795. . But the children of the kingdom [i.e., covenant breakers] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. Continuous suffering, however, is reserved only for sons of perditionthose who are still unclean after the final judgment. It doesnt matter because I never joined. Those who followed Lucifer in his rebellion in the premortal life and those who in mortality sin against the Holy Ghost are sons of perdition. 14:1519). So there you go, the souls who end up in Outer Darkness are clearly apostates, or not. . Articles 1 - 7 will help your candle last longer and perform its best. . https://www.mormonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Outer_Darkness&oldid=27067. Because reasons. Later in the same discourse Alma blended the doctrines of the Fall, agency, and the second death together as an admonition to keep the commandments of God (see Alma 12:3137). Whether Christians have believed hell to be literal or figurative, the New Testament metaphor of an unquenchable lake of fire has conjured up for believers in the Bible harsh images of souls consigned to never-ending punishment as recompense for their evil deeds done while on earth. In a general conference talk, Joseph Fielding Smith further explained that. Thus, the only mortals who can possibly become sons of perdition must be Latter-day Saints who fall/fell away. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. It even warns its readers to beware of the devils temptation to disbelieve the doctrine of a personal devil and that there is an actual place and/or state called hell. . So lets turn to that bastion of all wisdom that Jeremy Runnells was blamed for not believing and turning to with questions: FAIRMormon: The church has no official position on this issue. If their Prophet wrote in a journal, or said to someone in passing, or gave a talk a local school saying that, Eating toast without butter is a sin worthy of hell! that does not make it a Mormon Doctrine. Please read, the source above, What is Official LDS Doctrine. 6:28), hell fire (3 Ne. 11:3940; 18:13), pains of hell (Jacob 3:1112; Alma 14:6; 26:13; 36:13), chains of hell (Alma 5:7, 910; 12:11; 13:30; 26:14), child of hell (Alma 11:23; 54:11), powers of hell (Alma 48:17), everlasting hell (Hel. The New Testament testifies that there is an actual place identified as hell into which people can be cast, as in the case of the wicked, and from which they can lift up their eyes, as in the case of the rich man, and from which they can be delivered, as in the case of King David. Latter Day Saint beliefs on hell are connected with the movement's doctrines of the plan of salvation, the degrees of glory and the telestial kingdom. 15:29, 35; Alma 19:29; 54:7), sleep of hell (2 Ne. John the Revelator heard Christ proclaim that he possessed the keys of hell and of death (Rev. About 74 B.C. Hence the saying: They will go into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Additionally it provides helpful commentary on New Testament passages concerning hell. kingdoms of glory. We will, however, address some of the portrayals of other LDS beliefs and practices that were depicted in this episode. Sons of perdition include (1) those who followed Satan and were cast out of heaven for rebellion during premortality and (2) those who were permitted to be born to this world with physical bodies but then served Satan and turned utterly against God. Clearly fire is used as a metaphor for sufferingnot a literal fire but a state of misery. Because of their disobedience, these spirits ended up not receiving bodies, a necessary ingredient to progress to mortality and be qualified for one of the three kingdoms of glory. Thus, the second death is taught in conjunction with the first death, which came as a consequence of the Fall of Adam and Eve, and also with the Atonement of Jesus Christ, which redeems all of humankind from the first death through resurrection and the second death through repentance. Dennis L. Largey, Hell Second Death, Lake of Fire and Brimstone, and Outer Darkness, inThe Book of Mormon and the Message of the Four Gospels, ed. Conclusion . . In Peters second general epistle to the Church, he taught concerning the angels who had sinned, saying that God cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness (2 Pet. So, in the Mormon view, none of these so-called polygamist marriages are valid, religiously or legally. 9:1012, 1516). The Book of Mormon contains six references to the second death: one reference by Jacob (Jacob 3:11), three by Alma (Alma 12:16, 32; 13:30), and two by Samuel the Lamanite (Hel. The kingdom that is not a kingdom of glory is called outer darkness. Yea, Alma wrote, I did remember all my sins and iniquities, for which I was tormented with the pains of hell (Alma 36:13). 5:22), and the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone of which the apostle John wrote (Rev. Rev. So get what they deserve. Yet how many sins and wrong choices has every humanincluding me and youmade? Mormon theology ultimately portrays Outer Darkness as heaven, and Satan as the God of that realm. 21:8; see also 19:20). King Benjamin also taught that the fiery suffering was a state of misery one encounters when viewing ones sinfulness: They shall be judged, every man according to his works, whether they be good, or whether they be evil. Women or not. Smith said this will be practically indescribable: The extent of this punishment none will ever know except those who partake of it. Hence, the very worse lot in their lives will be the telestial kingdom. Even Nazi dictator Adolph Hitler will get nothing less than the telestial kingdom since he was never baptized/confirmed into the church; work was done in proxy for him in the London, England temple several decades ago. He cried: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death. This desperate cry for forgiveness through Christ brought deliverance from the pains of hell Alma had experienced because of his sins (Alma 36:1620). Mormon Wiki, for example has a pretty specific definition of who doesnt go there but lacks any citations: Sons of Perdition as those few souls who have been born on this earth who have been made partakers of Gods power, yet suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy God by denying the Holy Spirit after having received it, denying the Only Begotten Son and put him to an open shame. They openly and knowingly fight against God and Christ, having sided with Satan even though they had once tasted of full gospel knowledge by the power of the Holy Ghost.There are those who fear that they have committed the unpardonable sin, because they have not been faithful members of the Church. That last part of the previous sentence is very important. The Plan of Salvation kind of negates the reason for missionary work. Another manual states, Baptism is the first saving ordinance of the gospel (see Articles of Faith 1:4). Which means that really, no one knows anything about this. So only a prophet can put the matter to rest well, thats nice that Brigham said there were no women, Joseph F. said there were no women, but Wilford Woodruff said there was no debate and there must be women. The Book of Mormon provides another testament concerning the existence of hell, and explains how one can escape the chains of hell in this life, and an everlasting hell in the next life, through application of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Finally, John saw that death and hell delivered up the dead to be judged according to their works, and death and hell were cast into [a] lake of fire (Rev. They will not have a kingdom of glory. The Book of Mormon provides another testament of the reality of a designated place called hell, where the wicked are consigned. 12:22). Now go take a nap and rest well! voulez vous coucher avec moi ce soir,

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